I was baffled by the discussion on TIMES NOW y’day night- high profile discussion between Dr.Natwar singh, Maruf Raza et al.
China says why Dr. Manmohan Singh visited Arunachal Pradesh.
What is this? Can’t our PM go to any of our states? Has he to take permission of china every time…RIDICULOUS. I wonder why India is not replying to China. Only thing we have to say (as appeared in TOI today) is that “Arunachal is part of India”. What is this? Y we have to tell this to anyone. I think, we should very very strongly tell China to stop interfering in our internal matters; particularly regarding Sikkim and other North-East states.
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In order to discuss this article, a brief mention on the history of Indo-Chinese relationship needs to be pulled out of the closet.
Pandit Jawaharlal Nehru made a hash of things when he overlooked the red giant beyond our Himalayan borders.
Panditji was a a great lover of children. But it was no child's play in dealing with a communist red giant with a lethal military might.
In 1962, India lost the war with China. With it, India lost vast stretches of its own land both on its North-West and its North-East frontiers.
The point remains, as it stood almost half a century ago, that the Chinese are better equipped and trained at everything that we aim to do. Be it education, trade and commerce, scientific achievements, and, of course, militarily.
Sir, you will no doubt agree that freedom is only guaranteed by the might of the sword. The "pen", if you will, guarantees the freedom of the mind. But without a healthy body, no mind healthy and worth its salt, can survive.
China can rattle its saber whenever and wherever it wants to. Dr. Singh, per the Chinese, had to have its permission to visit Arunachal Pradesh. Simply because, our own Indian military war machine is ineffectual to meet the threat perception of our northern neighbours.
We are not yet strong enough and self-sustaining to clash with China. By her army's sheer numbers alone, China can snuff the life out of India.
The Chinese haven't yet proved to be adventurous to a bold extent because of our old Russian friends and the growing warmth with our American chums, if you will!
But the veil and veneer is bound to go up sooner or later! Till such time, we cannot afford to be brazen in our dealings and retorts with the Chinese bear!
It may be argued that strength doesn't need to translate into being a bully and brow beat one's neighbours.
But when a country has a voracious appetite to fuel its own national growth, it can do no less than to intimidate and, finally, occupy resource-rich lands of its immediate neighbours.
China has a growth rate which itself has been exponentially growing at a steady clip. The Indian economy on the other hand is still some way off.
History tells us that whenever emperors and sultans have had to guarantee the trade and commerce routes of their own domains, they have had to raise armies and/or carry out campaigns to secure passageways.
China has had no reason till date, to act contrary to the above established practice. Besides its need to guarantee the pace of developing its economy, is dependent upon the vastness of its resources that it can possess.
It is customary to intimidate your immediate neighbours into submission before occupying vast tracts of land unlawfully and by force. The Chinese have been following this dictum to the tee.
If all such methods and tactics fail, the Chinese military will step up a gear and bare its fangs. Our own tacticians are well aware of this. Hence, the prudence in keeping silence as a response to all marked Chinese aggressions and verbal barbs.
@ satadru
both of ur comments r fabulous!very well written!plz accept my wishes 4 tht.
bt tht does nt mean i agree completely!
@comment1
all said and done; they r stronger-no doubt; bt tht does nt give them any right to object to movements of our PM. rt?
@comment2
i think tht type of war 4 encroachment r d things of past. Now with UNO in place, no nation can forcibly take others land. Remaining silent will only make them more aggressive.
Sir, I wish to register my thanks for your compliments. Its a privilege to be discussing such issues with you.
However, a nation's right to voice objections on the movements of a leader of another sovereign country, is a blatant form of provocation.
To the dismay of free people and people who advocate free speech, it was a day of sadness when India had recognized Tibet to be a part of Chine. In return, China official withdrew its claim over Sikkim.
But now China claims to have a major stake in Arunachal Pradesh which it considers it to be a part and parcel of its own geographical presence. The reason for this Chinese point of view, is not hard to fathom.
Burma with its Junta, is rabidly supported by the Chinese establishment. The parallels between these two nations, are startlingly clear.
Both these countries have a reputation and a history of persecuting those who advocate freedom, liberty, free speech and justice.
Both these countries have carried out pogroms against the Buddhists. The Chinese in Tibet, the Burmese military in their own country.
It may not be out of place to mention here that the recent close cooperation between the US and Indian military forces haven't gone unnoticed by the Communist Bloc.
While the Russians have only offered a token protest, but have enhanced their military aid to India, the Americans have begun to aggressively market their state-of-the-art military hardware to practically every armed wing that our nation boasts of. Even the normally, reclusive Israelis have offered to upgrade the old Russian military hardware.
China has always had a strained relationship with Russia. The Americans and the NATO forces haven't been too kind with the Chinese either. The Japanese have always had a suspicious point of view reserved for mainland China, and vice versa.
Again, the recent moves of India and her interests in the ASEAN bloc, have been a cause for great concern to China.
The sum of all these fears, of the Chinese leadership that is, is amply reflected by the recent Chinese rhetoric. But it would be too foolish to write that off.
The land area of Arunachal Pradesh is the key to laying roadways from the Chinese Yunnan province to the Burmese frontiers. China can ill afford to lose that kind of space given the rough kind of borders that it has now.
As regards forcibly taking land of any nation, I would only like to make a pointed reference to Aksai Chin and PoK. The actions of UN are not quite tangible in these respects, yet.
The matter of right to voice one's opinion is fueled and sustained by one's economical and physical might. China has the economic backbone and the military muscle - both of which are in ample evidence in the 21st century that we live in. China can create its own right to voice any conception that it has thought out. Something like the Boss is always right.
And in the instant case, I do not for a moment suspect that Sivaji is the boss!
thanx a lot satadru for very valuable inputs
learnt a lot frm it
tibet point also came up in panel discussion at TIMES NOW
Maruf
Rraza told tht China will never forgive India for recognition of Dalai Lama n all this trouble may b b'cause of tht (partly so)
bt satadru, tht does nt meant 2 gift any part of our land China demands. China may b strong bt v r nt weak!
Of course, we can do something.
India has to enter a form of You scratch my back and I scratch yours kind of pact with stronger nations who are like-minded. The US and Russian dominions sound very good options.
The problem is, that the Chinese also see it the same way, and that to them is bad news!
there is some way out, well said Satadru...
i see new alignment of world powers. Russia is with us bt nt powerful like erstwhile USSR; tht leaves us with US only.US+UK can b with us - after all they r insecure by the way china is getting mightier.
May b then China will nt object to movements of our PM!
@manali
thanx a lot for thoughtful comment.
It again points out to the poor leadership we have today. It reminds me the days of freedom movement when the great leaders showed us the path to freedom. Now v r in the state that even the leaders cannot save nation's dignity. SHAMEFUL...a former Pakistan's leader can promise to give India a thousand cuts and wounds at all times in future(upon formation of Bangladesh; and is doing so)...China can say us whatever...it is v, the citizens, who need to choose able leadership
Essays and commentaries have been written about the political system and of our politicians. Beginning the 1990s and with the advent of cable TV, we have had news channels beaming discussions, debates with politicians seated across the interviewers, answering questions aired by a billion voices.
Notwithstanding the failings of our politicians and for all their vices, our political system has not been a failing. A comparison of our economics, politics, judiciary and bureaucracy, with our immediate neighbours, and, in fact, most nations of South East Asia would reveal that we, as a nation, have progressed.
But progress has been slow and stunted. The reason, not hard to find. Politics in our country is localized and influenced by regional and micro interests. Historically, we have been united only by emperors and monarchy. We, as a country, have been ruled for centuries. The yoke has only been lifted 60 years ago.
Comparison with Israel would be harsh - nationally speaking. They are a nation which have been goaded and urged with the Jewish economic might. Its a nation of one race, one language, one religion. India is a pot pouri of several races of people with their own diverse cultures, religions and views. To unite with one identical set of protocols - economically, militarily, socially, educationally is a testimony to the belief and strength of all citizens of our lands.
Militarily, India cannot afford to adopt a draft and conscription policy, such as Israel. Not only would that lead to civil unrest and further invite political incitement, our Armed forces would become a law unto themselves answerable to no civilian government.
In this it may please be noted that even in the 21st century, long after the Gora Sahibs have left our shores, our Army continues to have regiments named after regions and states, viz., the Jat, the J&K Light Infantry, the Madras Regiment, etc.
Its undeniably correct that the unemployed youth with sub-levels of intelligence need to be channelized to the benefit of our motherland as a whole. However, to consider the Armed forces as an option would not be in the interests of general welfare of the proletariat. The more influential would simply evade the draft and conscription processes by virtue of their social positions.
Napolean once remarked that an army marches on its stomach. Considering the fact, that a strong army and armed forces is the need of the hour to protect our shores, we need to boost our economy so that we may pay for the costs of maintaining the physical might and prowess of our sentinels and warriors. China has begun walking that path, several decades ago.
It may be of pointed interest to note here that Israel can afford to keep at bay its hostile neighbours, by its military might and financial muscle. Israel's scientists and industrialists continue to pump in funds, technologies and weapons to keep the Israeli Defence Forces firm in the face of any eventuality. Besides, the Jewish communities and diaspora spread across the entire First World, keep the money bags of the Israel Exchequer jingling.
Pound for pound, our India is still poorer than Israel. Yet, with our intelligence services and military thinktanks, we still have managed to survive thus far. A reference to RA&W, alongwith its reknowned founder, Mr. R. N. Kao, is drawn here.
But we are digressing.
It must be remembered that we enjoy liberty and freedom of speech. The fact that we are discussing the issue at hand, over the internet, is due to the boon that was handed down by generations of freedom fighters and radical thinkers.
As our imperial oppressors had been turned out, so too shall we stymie the unholy ambitions of unscrupulous politicians and very many prominent people in the bureaucracy, education system, medicine and health, judiciary and many other walks of our lives.
China realizes that India has a potent force not only in its armies, but in its thinkers as well. China is wary of the revolutionary spirit in most educated Indian citizens. Had it not been afraid of such, it would have steamrolled over our borders a long time ago.
We enthuse our own biased politicians when we give shelter to our own fears. We support them by restraining our voices for the fear of criticism.
Sir, it takes only one voice, just one, to fan the passions which once snatched freedom for our land. That is a spar enough to act as a deterrent to any invading force.
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